AeroVironment’s household of loitering munitions. Photo courtesy of AeroVironment.
The way forward for warfare and the Defense Department’s newest idea of operations—particularly all-domain operations and distributed operations—might be written by unmanned methods working on the tactical edge, both individually or as a part of a swarm, with interoperability for each manned-unmanned and unmanned-unmanned teaming operations.
In this interview with Wahid Nawabi, chairman, president and chief govt officer of AeroVironment, we talk about how costly army property may be changed and augmented with extra reasonably priced and attritable unmanned methods enabled by the meshing of autonomous methods, synthetic intelligence, machine studying and edge computing.
Breaking Defense: Describe the evolving menace atmosphere that the unmanned methods of as we speak and tomorrow have to be focused at. What are the fast, multi-mission capabilities wanted?

Wahid Nawabi, chairman, president and chief govt officer of AeroVironment.
Nawabi: The evolving menace is what you noticed within the Armenia-Azerbaijan battle in 2020 the place deadly, armed drones made by Chinese, Israeli, and Turkish protection corporations actually disabled a whole army. Armenia had all their tanks on their entrance strains and inside 48 hours they had been disabled. It was executed primarily with not-that-complicated, low cost, low-tech deadly drones fired by the Azerbaijan army.
That’s only a glimpse of what the long run battle will seem like towards state-run, near-peer or peer adversaries like China or Russia. It may occur in Eastern Europe, Taiwan, components of Korea, and elsewhere. Our adversaries are doing this already and the U.S. and its allies should be prepared for that battle as we speak.
I’m afraid that the Defense Department’s present method of working with massive protection primes like Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, or General Atomics, who don’t have a lot know-how in these areas nor the aptitude and agility to get there quick and affordably, is just not the answer.
The answer comes from corporations like AeroVironment and plenty of others like us who concentrate on clever, unmanned methods. We acknowledged this some time in the past and have strategized our complete funding profile portfolio in that course. We’ve obtained 80 % of the uncooked materials, as I name it, to ship that functionality and meet the evolving menace environments of the long run within the subsequent two years.
Breaking Defense: If these low-tech, low cost, unmanned methods are ready to take action a lot injury, then why do we want dearer, difficult, and sensible unmanned methods for all-domain operations that may establish, classify, prioritize, and have interaction all on their very own?
Nawabi: Two the reason why. One, that battle concerned two not-so-sophisticated adversaries. Russia and China aren't the identical as Azerbaijan in terms of their sophistication and know-how. That’s by far the primary cause why.
Number two is though the methods that Azerbaijan used had been low-tech or perceived to be rudimentary, they weren't multi-domain and operated solely within the air area. For our near-peer and peer adversaries we want multi-domain methods with a lot greater ranges of autonomy and the power to function in each GPS-denied environments and in contested airspace. Azerbaijan was not confronted with any of that. The U.S. can be confronted with that if we had been to get right into a battle with China or Russia, which have clever, multi-domain capabilities.
Breaking Defense: To handle that, AeroVironment says it's delivering the “right solutions” to allow all-domain operations. What are they? What are you particularly investing in?
Nawabi: As I discussed, the fitting options should be, initially, multi-domain as a result of our adversaries have multi-domain capabilities. You can not simply defeat one area, as was the case with Armenian floor forces. China and Russia have air, floor, area, and maritime capabilities simply as subtle in some circumstances because the U.S.
The second piece is that the fitting options additionally should be clever, that means that these methods should work collectively as a group—each manned and unmanned, and unmanned-unmanned. An instance is our integration with General Dynamics Land Systems’ Optionally Manned Fighting Vehicle (OMFV) for the U.S. Army’s Future Command armored car requirement.
The OMFV is not going to have a direct line-of-sight fireplace weapon like a cannon or a machine gun. Rather, it’s going to have a battery of Switchblade 300 and 600 loitering missiles that may be fired with out even seeing the enemy. They can fly for 100-plus kilometers, establish the goal, after which have interaction means past visible line of sight.
Another instance is our teaming with Kratos the place we put Switchblades contained in the stomach of one among its bigger, unmanned drones known as the UTAP-22 Mako as a part of the Air Force’s Skyborg program. The Air Force has a requirement to achieve a whole lot of kilometers into enemy territory and disable the adversary’s air protection methods or floor forces utilizing loitering missiles like Switchblade.
Future conflicts are going to be closely unmanned. Unlike prior conflicts the place people had been on the entrance strains, future conflicts with near-peer adversaries will depend on large quantities of unmanned property for battlefield engagement. Those methods should be multi-domain, interoperable, and clever. The know-how is there, and corporations like AeroVironment are those that may ship it to the U.S. army as we speak.
We have the breadth and depth with a portfolio of and know-how capabilities that may handle an increasing vary of buyer mission necessities with the fitting options.
Breaking Defense: You’ve made a number of current acquisitions associated to buying the autonomous and clever capabilities you’ve been discussing. Tell me about these acquisitions and what they’ve dropped at AeroVironment that may, in flip, be invaluable to the DoD?
Nawabi: We have executed three acquisitions within the final yr. Each one was straight and exactly targeted on what I’ve described up to now.
The first one was the acquisition of Arcturus UAV, which included its medium-class, Group 2, vertical takeoff and touchdown JUMP 20 unmanned plane system. That lets us develop our portfolio functionality into a bigger class of UAVs that may fly longer, go farther, and carry extra assorted payloads, comparable to Switchblade.

AeroVironment’s Jump 20 medium UAS in flight. Photo courtesy of AeroVironment.
The second one was an organization growing synthetic intelligence and machine-vision algorithms particular to what we consult with as ‘learning and active-perception autonomy.’ That is the power of the software program algorithm to take a look at a video and establish me from you, or a Russian tank from a U.S. tank, or a white SUV from an armored floor car. This is the crux of the ‘intelligent’ facet we mentioned earlier. That acquisition and its know-how, coupled with our personal inside R&D investments, are important to the long run battle.
The most up-to-date acquisition was Telerob, a German chief in floor robotic options with a worldwide footprint for merchandise such because the telemax and tEODor EVO household of unmanned floor autos. With Telerob’s merchandise now in our portfolio, we're competing for the multi-year U.S. Air Force explosive ordnance disposal robotic system program and pursuing a number of extra alternatives with the entire army companies.
All three of those basically spherical out our portfolio to have the ability to ship this functionality to our prospects. They enhance upon what I name the ‘enhancement of the solution value’ to our buyer. At the tip of the day, if the worth of a UGV to a buyer is, say, one, and the worth of a UAV is, say, two, then the mixture of them is three or extra. With AI and autonomy, the worth could possibly be 5 or 10. That drive multiplier impact is what we’re making an attempt to realize for our prospects.
Breaking Defense: What precisely is the DoD telling trade that they want in unmanned methods for all area operations?
Nawabi: They’re on the lookout for interoperable methods that may discuss to one another. They’re on the lookout for methods that function in a contested battle area with segregated or no communications. They’re on the lookout for methods that may move info between one another, comparable to a Puma UAS figuring out a goal and robotically passing that info and not using a human concerned to a Switchblade to interact and eradicate the goal. Multi-domain intelligence, interoperability, GPS-denied operation, and low price are what the US army is on the lookout for.
There’s one problem, although. The U.S. army has to start out writing necessities that aren't only for a specialised widget. They have to be for a household of methods answer structure. Because if you wish to optimize the entire, you can't simply deal with particular person elements.
Breaking Defense: Final ideas?
Nawabi: Number one, we want to consider the battle of the long run, not the battle of the previous. Conflicts of the long run might be with subtle adversaries and extremely depending on unmanned methods.
Number two, clever, multi-domain robotic methods that may work cohesively in communications and GPS degraded and denied environments are going to be important. This is a vital factor of success for the U.S. army and its allies.
Number three, corporations like AeroVironment are on the forefront and on the coronary heart of constructing these capabilities attainable. That is our technique, our focus, and infused in our DNA. The U.S. DoD wants to concentrate to and have interaction with corporations like ours. We don’t have the Rolodex and the {dollars} that the large guys have for lobbying, however we’ve obtained the fitting items for the U.S. army’s future wants.